• Enoril@jlai.lu
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    29 days ago

    We are in 2024 and they still use the word “race” to segregate the American population in several groups. So no surprise a DNA service could be so popular in the USA.

    If they were American citizen and just that - without subdivision and the legal right to ask or use their gene, color skin or whatever_they_think_is_important_to_distinguish_themself - well a lot of issues and strange “behaviour” (aka racisme) would have disapeared.

    Or at least decreased as nobody would have the legal tools and data to enforce it: gerrymanding, blaming a vote on a “community”, having your town split in “community” sectors and no shame at all to call it like that officially! Which others country put “chinatown” on their map?

    As a teenager, I was shocked by this fact when visiting the USA 25 years ago. That and the fact i have found in a normal marketplace unprotected ammunition sold near the baby milk. “baby stuff, baby stuff, 9mm ammo… what!?!”

    This DNA service is just the result of this global problem: the american society and its laws are still allowing passive racism.

    So americans want to prove (to themself, to others?) via DNA results that they can’t be racist because they have a black friend sorry : black DNA ancestors.

    Some will tell you: “ho it’s just for fun”. But is fun really the only motivation here?

    And congrat to them as they don’t only expose themself (genetic data are priceless and should be protected at all costs) but also they expose all their children, children’s children, etc. These chidren probably wouldn’t have agreed to that if they were born.

    • grue@lemmy.world
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      29 days ago

      I applaud your idealism, but the tricky thing is that if you stop measuring race, then you also stop being able to measure institutional racism. That’d be great for the closet racists who want to pretend that it doesn’t exist, but it does still exist and we really need to be able to quantify how well measures to stop it are actually working.

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        28 days ago

        If you want to fix institutional racism in the US you need to fix social mobility because that’s the primary mechanism by which it gets perpetuated. For that you need educational status of the parents and their tax declarations, not skin colour. You need to stop financing schools from local taxes so primary and secondary education is as good or better in poorer areas instead of having quotas lowering standards for people who got a worse education because they live in the wrong neighbourhood. You need free tertiary education.

        Focussing on race is a convenient way to ignore actually addressing the issue and instead continue to deepen societal rifts and to breed resentment among non-racialised disenfranchised people.

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        28 days ago

        I totally agree with you here. These rules don’t make racism disappear but make it far more difficult to use it as a tool (passively or on-purpose).

        At least if someone (anybody, including politician, company) use these terms, they will be immediatly stopped with more ease than your current system.

        You still have a need for watcher (justice system, neutral party like associations) to keep track BUT nothing official can track your race in any documents at all level. That include the resume of an employe or even a customers service listing. You will have immediate sanction and bad PR for the company/individual if you do that.

        Same for your religion or your political party by the way. They are too much officialy tracked and categorized!

        Racism will always exists unfortunately but all these laws can reduce the global impact on the population. And put on shame the one using it as discriminative element.

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        28 days ago

        At this point it’s time to accept this approach simply does not work.