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    at this point, with twitter being inaccessible to non logged in user, the ‘public square’ thing is totally done,. Get off twitter now. There are alternatives.

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      The way I use Twitter, I follow ~40 specific people. Half of them created accounts other places when Elon first started fucking around but they don’t use any of them so if I want to keep following these people I’m stuck (and I do).

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        true. I know a lot of people are in similar situations, that’s what kept me on facebook for years. I’ll just say at this point, twitter could just die any day now, starting DMing people if you haven’t already and find another way to say in touch.

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      People demanding others to leave Twitter often seem to forget that not everyone has the same experience on that platform. If one wants to argue that I should leave to make some sort of a statement then fair enough, but to claim I should leave because it has now become something it wasn’t before doesn’t at all resonate with my personal experience. Besides the obvious UI changes I haven’t noticed anything else to be different. No one is forcing right wing/conspiracy propaganda down my throat there. My highly curated feed has the same content it always has and when I see something I’m not interested about I block it and it’s gone. Lemmy is way better alternative for Reddit than Mastodon is for Twitter.

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        Do what you want but just be sure to know shit is going down hill. It’s not effecting you now but doesn’t hurt to start looking for an alternative for when these wide sweeping changes do start effecting you.

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    Stop enabling his childish tactics by continuing to treat his platform as some kind of essential tool for communication. It simply isn’t.

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      It was - and it’s not that the need has gone away or been fulfilled elsewhere, it’s just that it’s no longer viable.

      I think paying close attention to this is important though. It’s a case study that just keeps giving - every couple weeks we get an important reminder that billionaires and billion dollar companies aren’t a good thing - their interests are not aligned with ours

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        I have never used Twitter or X even once in my life. It’s definitely not essential. I really don’t understand how people have convinced themselves that short format screamposting into the void is somehow the peak of communication. Just quit and let your followers know why.

        If people actually cared about what you had to say, they’d go wherever you go to hear you say it. If not, were they really all that interested in the first place? or was it just convenient because they were already on Twitter and so were you?

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          Like it or not, Twitter is the only place where you can talk to a random developer at a huge company and get immediate confirmation that there is indeed a bug in their latest release and have a bunch of people crowdsource work arounds. There really is no alternative for professionals and experts to discuss the particulars of their fields and it really sucks that Musk is destroying that.

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            Yes, I get that, and it does suck. I blame that particular situation on brands/companies abandoning their own websites and canning their web developers in favor of hiring social media reps to keep a presence on Facebook/Twitter/etc instead of maintaining their own space.

            I understand why they did it. It’s far cheaper and you end up reaching a larger audience, but I’ve always personally been a fan of just going to the website and looking at information there.

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          Oh, me neither. I hate the format, I used it long enough to reserve my name, then never logged in again

          But it’s a centralized town square. How much news came out of there? And I mean actual news, not tabloid crap. It’s where science discoveries came out first, where earthquake responses organized, where Arab spring came together

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    I cannot believe that there are companies and non-wingnuts who are still actively using that site at this point. Like maybe at the start it was ha-ha funny watching him flail about with code printouts and unplugging random microservices leading to outages, but I feel like the moment he started actively funneling money to alt-right knuckleheads and human traffickers should have been enough of a kick in the pants for even folks heavily reliant on the platform to make their exit.

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      The problem is that there isn’t a great replacement for it now. The same with reddit. I’m on here and I’m on Bluesky. The main uses I have for both Reddit and Twitter/X is sports news and discourse. Reddit for the discourse and Twitter for the news. There aren’t the communities here to have that. I want to talk Orioles baseball but the Orioles community here literally has zero comments other than bot comments updating scoring updates/pitching changes during the game threads. I’m trying to do my part and comment/post stuff to them but without any actual responses or conversation it feels like yelling into the wind.

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        Yea a lot of the niche communities haven’t and probably won’t migrate to these smaller sites like Lemmy and Mastodon. Don’t know how to solve the issue either.

        In this case, the Orioles would have to announce they have an official mastodon to get most fans to move to it.

        Personally I’ve just stopped using the internet for checking on my niche hobbies. A good number of Reddit clones have been trying to populate communities with bots to just post links but without any discourse, it’s the same effect as just googling “topic” and filtering for links from this week. I’m sure it will get better with time. Maybe

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          My utility company uses Twitter, and keeps it updated with better information than they do via text message alerts. I wish they would get a mastodon account. During tornado season or ice storms, it’s nice to know if power will be back on in an hour or in three days. And once the boil water notice appeared on Twitter a couple of hours before being sent out by text.

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          When the internet is full of seemingly valid and populated alternatives, I’ll just assume them all to be bots.

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        Yep. There are only so many people willing to take the leap for ideological reasons. I bailed from Twitter the day Apartheid Boy reinstated Donald Trump (but laughed when Donald decided to start his own dollar-store Twitter instead). Most people aren’t willing to go that far.

        I’m tired of being manipulated & jerked around by shitfucks like Apartheid Boy, so I came here for ideological reasons, specifically, because I think it’s time to bring democracy to social media, and the distributed Fediverse model is the way to do that. Those playing ball with the Zucks and Musks and Spezs, should know they’re playing footsie with wannabe dictators, so don’t be surprised when they get shit dictated at them.

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      That’s the power of critical mass. Person 1 won’t leave because they have too many followers and follows Persons 2, 3 and 4, who also have too many followers and only follow person 5 and 6 there, who…

      The decline is gradual, but will hardly be complete. Facebook isn’t as used as some years ago, but it’s still absurdly big. Xitter is likely to lose some relevancy, but there’s not much that can be done to truly “kill” it. One way to speed that up is if space karen x decides to block all porn.

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      I’m really shocked that anyone would be surprised.

      So many people that used to be really amazing creators ended up down the Twitter rabbit hole. At first their content suffered, and then dried up completely. And now all you ever hear from them is about whatever Twitter tells them to hate this week.

      Hating Twitter is just the latest thing to hate on Twitter. And all these people are going to keep on going to get their hit during the 2 minutes of hate, and then a bunch of them will run off and write articles about how much they hate Twitter based on all the stuff that they read on Twitter.

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    On Tuesday afternoon, hours after this story was first published, X began reversing the throttling on some of the sites, dropping the delay times back to zero. It was unknown if all the throttled websites had normal service restored.

    Who there didn’t see that coming? They thought nobody was gonna notice 5s delays on NYT links?

    That new CEO must be locked in a cage somewhere at this point because she is definitely not calling the shots on this, or “X”, or any of the other nonsense that’s still been occurring because only one billionaire egomaniac is capable of this absolute fucking trainwreck.

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      Net neutrality is about Internet itself. Twitter/X is a service build on top of the Internet, so no.

      It is for example when your Internet provider Gomes you 100Mb/s, but only when accessing these particular sites, otherwise it’s 1Mb/s. It has nothing to do with data caps or overall speed limit, as some suggest, or with speed on the other end.

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            Yes, actually. In Québec, Videotron offered a mobile data plan that included unlimited data exclusively for the Google Music service. The CRTC told them that this was illegal and it broke net neutrality laws.

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              I think I recall reading now that they had implemented it here. The whole “what happens there, happens here” dynamic made me cancel it out when they cancelled it down there I guess.

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    Twitter X Creator Dashboard pays creators for the distribution of CSAM.

    If you use Twitter you are supporting the production of child sexual abuse materials.

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    There are those of us who were on the Internet before the capital showed up, and all of us said that it was a bad idea to use these corporate silos, that there were implications that were not great to handing what we knew would one day be the public square over to private interests. We were not listened to, of course, and for the thirty years that the government kept the house of cards propped up with zero interest they created a real illusion that it might actually work.

    But maybe I have to reassess Elon. I have heretofore considered him something of a bad man, a Senator Palpatine with his “saving the world through capitalism” schtick, but with an Emperor lurking in his twisted mind. And here we have that very Emperor, taking off the mask. But perhaps… perhaps… perhaps Musk is actually Vader. Perhaps in revealing, to all with eyes to see, the very problems we Libre’d zealots have been crying out in the wilderness about, perhaps he is the one who will restore balance to the Internet.

    Nah he’s just an apartheid rich boy who talked a good line while he could keep pulling free money out of the bag, but now that he has to put money back in the bag he’s taking whatever work he can get.