Tesla Under Investigation After Fatal Crash May Have Involved Autopilot System, Report Says::undefined

  • Dojan@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    The autopilot that tries to mince cyclists? That believe that tram tracks are for Teslas? The autopilot that mistakes the moon for a stop sign?

    No I don’t think a reputable brand whose cars fall apart in the rain, that sell vehicles with internal testing firmware, whose spokesperson does nothing but bluster and lie, that resells defective vehicles, that has more or less weekly recalls, would ever release a car with a dangerous feature.

    The best thing to come out of Tesla is the Finnish bloke who blew his up in anger over the insane quote he was given for repairs.

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    11 months ago

    I don’t trust the tech at this point and I certainly don’t trust the people who are using the full-self driving mode.

    It’s endangering everyone on the roads right now.

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      This is my opinion, too. Their “autopilot” feature is a glorified driving aid. It’s not self-driving. It’s supposed to help with driver fatigue, and you’re supposed to keep both hands on the wheel. If it makes a mistake, that’s okay, because you’re driving the car, right?

      Traditional cruise control without radar will maintain the speed you asked and it won’t stop for emergency vehicles, but we don’t blame that. Even though the “autopilot” feature does more automation, you’re supposed to drive the car in an identical fashion with identical attention compared to traditional cruise control.

      But safety is still what matters first. If you’re sending a freeway-speed land missile into motorcyclists and police cars, I don’t care if you were driving a 90s Civic or a car with automated driving features. The car hit someone. Fix that problem first, then figure out who to blame later.

      In my option, until we have cars that are guaranteed to function as a completely autonomous experience, and the manufacturer of the car doesn’t tell you to keep your hands on the wheel, you’re still driving it. It’s your responsibility. You can still steer, brake, change lanes, evade, etc. That’s on you. As far as I’m concerned, anyone who thinks otherwise might as well blame their heated seats or radio station.

      I understand that Tesla would be improving their software, and I agree with this, too. It’s not great that they are fudging things quite a bit by pushing the self-driving rhetoric. They should focus on this, and it should be improved. But I still think that negligent drivers are at fault.

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    11 months ago

    Fortune make it impossible to reject cookies by making “reject all” a dead button. So here’s an archive link (and a request for the prolific bot to provide them in its posts).

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    11 months ago

    just to think that James Cameron thought Terminator would be a walking, talking robot man and not a car

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    11 months ago

    Not a fan of Tesla or Musk, but I think it always bears repeating in these conversations that AI driving will be much safer than human driving if it isn’t already.

    Unfortunately, accidents will happen, but when an accident happens with an AI, ALL the other AI’s get to learn from that failure going forward.

    I’m very happy that in my old age, I’ll have some future version of this driving me around… or more likely, taking the wheel from me if I do something stupid.

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      11 months ago

      AI driving is only as good as it’s sensors.

      While most other companies use LIDAR, Musk switched to video cameras because it’s cheaper.

      Which is why Tesla “FSD” is worse than competitors.

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      11 months ago

      “This thing that does not exist and nobody has any idea how to make it” will totally be safer than human driving.

      You know what is safer than human driving and we know how to make? Trains.

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        11 months ago

        I’m still waiting for my train from LA to SF. It’s been in the works since I was in college. I’ve already graduated, had multiple jobs, early retired, and there’s still no sign of it.

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        Sorry, but that’s just silly.

        Plenty of people have great ideas on how to make self-driving cars, and we’re seeing them come into play.

        If you don’t understand that computer reaction time is ludicrously faster than human reaction time, and what that means for safety, I really can’t help you, though.

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          We all understand the benefits of computer reaction time, computer-assisted safety features are being included in cars all over the world.

          But those are “stop” features, that make the car refrain from doing something harmful. The problem are the “go” features, that give a car decision power.

          We tend to forget about all the lives saved by the “stop” features and focus on one life lost through a “go” feature. It may be a shortcoming of human nature but we are what we are and this is why “go” features don’t have a future.

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      11 months ago

      Autopilot is terrible and the fact that they advertise it as a reputable system is abhorrent. And yes, I own a tesla.

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        11 months ago

        I’m pretty happy with autopilot in our cars, especially on road trips. It really helps with driving fatigue.

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      11 months ago

      AI driving will probably be safer one day, but there is no real data today that demonstrates its current state is. At the same time we’re getting lots of examples where it fails at the most basic stuff.