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The Spanish government has a plan to prevent kids from watching porn online: Meet the porn passport.
Officially (and drily) called the Digital Wallet Beta (Cartera Digital Beta), the app Madrid unveiled on Monday would allow internet platforms to check whether a prospective smut-watcher is over 18. Porn-viewers will be asked to use the app to verify their age. Once verified, they’ll receive 30 generated “porn credits” with a one-month validity granting them access to adult content. Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits.
You have to request more porn credits from the government if you need more? Don’t want the government to be tracking this data of you. This is a privacy issue
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Government giving you porn credits sounds hilarious.
At least it will raise tech literacy among youth. If it isn’t as easy and would require some thinking that’s already better than 99% of homework.
Those kids will install a VPN faster than this bill goes through the Spanish parliament.
Even something as straightforward nowadays as VPN install can educate a person about cybersecurity as a side effect.
Thing is most stuff is simply too easy too acquire nowadays. No effort. No thought. Just endless stream of dopamine that is too addicting to even bother inquiring about how the very thing you are using works.
The victory of convenience will defeat us. There has to be some effort needed to acquire things otherwise they lose any value.
Only applies to sites who are based in Spain, at least the porn bans in the US went somewhat scorched earth, this limp dicked attempt doesn’t even do that.
It will be fun for one unashamed porn addicted user to keep making so many requests to this service that they break it.
“Javier, it’s been 30 minutes since your last credit application.”
“MORE CREDITS. CAN’T TALK.”
It’s easier to just use a VPN and pretend to be from anywhere else…
Porn is everywhere. It’s an endless battle.
The internet should simply be 18+ only at this point.
I strongly disagree. The porn is a huge issue, but there are a lot of actually useful websites where kids and teens can learn about their interests. Gatekeeping all that knowledge would make young people significantly less knowledgeable
Unironically: child safe websites should be under a separate DNS provider from your ISP, provided via a separate ISP router or modem. Setup a separate national level routing.
Seriously. Kids get curated internet only, adults get the firehose.
The idea of porn credits and voluntarily giving the government a list of everything you look at is utter insanity.
While I also like the idea of a separate second “internet” I feel like this is just another ID check requirement. It would still be better than a porn token wallet I guess. Either there would be an identity tied to all traffic from an access point(still a privacy problem) , or the access points themselves would have to be like, kept away from children or something somehow. Parental locks?
Make the children internet token based for kids, use a yubikey or something (no password to learn), and leave the regular internet as is. Make ISPs provide families with kids access to both, either via subnet or dedicated hardware.
From there just have policy to not give the unrestricted network access to kids. Aka parenting. Public institutions like libraries can have most open terminals on the “safenet” and limited public access to the unfiltered net.
For a “poor man’s version” of this concept, you could do a pi-hole sub-network for home use, but the internet elsewhere is still the internet.
That’s one possible idea anyways, and a damn sight better than porn credits.
LMAO, there’s a thing called a Firewall right, PiHole, get one, set it up at home, link the mobile devices through it for proxy or DNS…. Boom, your kids now can’t use the internet for porn or any other unscrupulous reason.
Yea, that’s what I was saying. But if you wanted a national level of this, having ISPs setup a “kid access” subnet that just runs on a separate Wifi SSID would make this idea easier for the non tech savvy.
There’s no way to enforce that outside of parental Intervention, which won’t happen.
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No. Not only no, but fuck no.
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Bro out here saying Mass surveillance is a good alternative to good parenting…
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let’s track everyone on the net with their ID. who are you, a Chinese spy?
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So school shut be 18+ as well then? The best teacher is the Internet for just about anything. If it is info about how to garden or how to setup networking gear. The internet has it.
Wait…I want to be “Secretario de Pornabilidad Social” or “Secretary or Social Probability”
I imagine my self going through all the SSN… Sexual Super Numbers to manage access and report usage.
1335346755 watched 6 hours per day of mostly vanilla doggy.
2356544677 more doggie
More doggie… doggie again. But every now and then… 1257678965534 watched 72 consecutive hours of BDSM where the sub faces downward into a hole in the floor where a camera…then the last does the same and the video cuts to another similar one. We must report this immediately to the right authority!
Idiots. I’m certain that absolutely no one wants this. What a shit show.
Shit show you say? That’s one token down
It’s always porn, isn’t it? We don’t need to protect children from misinformation, fascism, violence, racism, discrimination or exploitation on the internet, it’s always just porn for some reason…
Yes, porn and not giving away all of their data to keep them safe
Just image asking someone for a corn passport
There’s always DVDs of this stuff… Doesn’t have to be online.
I imagine a kid who’s smart enough to use a vpn, downloading a bunch of videos, and then selling usb drives to their friends at school, or sharing them via gdrive
Lets see how this pans out and how well it works ( or does not work )
What we perhaps need to do is start building respect for each other,
I haven’t read enough to know if this is a good thing or not.
But goddamn, I would hate having a 12 year old right now knowing how much terrible, awful shit is out there these days.
I mean there’s a ton of accounts like Andrew Tate that are aimed at getting these kids on a terrible thought path while they’re still kids.
I would hate to have my theoretical child reading all of the terrible bullshit that’s out there with no filter.
I’m so much more worried about my future kids’ access to toxic alpha male shit and fascist propaganda than I am about porn.
Politicians keep trying to helicopter parent the entire populations of countries.
Making sure your kids don’t go places online before they should, and have conversations with them about it once they reach an age where it happening is inevitable, is something every, single, parent, should do.
Not the fucking state.
And this has to be one the weirdest implementations of porn surveillance I’ve ever seen.
Exactly! Government granted ‘porn credits’ sounds absolutly insane as a serious idea…
Porn “Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits” is one wild sentence.
A porn “enthusiast”, requesting the government for porn credits, to watch porn? What?
tfw no porn credits
I hate when you’re about to bust and run out of credits. Like, just take the ruined O or power on into the “insert permission slip reference” screen?
drink verification cansqueeze verification dong
In my experience most parents are to lazy to keep up with setting appropriate restrictions for kids and like some parents, they expect someone else to raise and take care of their children.
Folks, this is not about the porn.
So what? I’ve had the exact same experience.
It’s not a reason for the state to overstep into ALL our lives. In fact, the state stepping in is giving such parents yet more excuses to put even less effort into shaping the adults that their children will become.
That’s their problem. I’ll handle my kids, fuck the government and fuck those useless parents as well. They should not have had kids.
…fuck those useless parents as well. They should not have had kids.
But that’s how the problem started in the first place!
Wow good job Spain.
I guess this works because email doesn’t exist.
I guess this works because file sharing applications and websites don’t exist.
I guess this works because VPN’s free and paid don’t exist.
I guess this works because Tor, i2p, Freenet, and Yggdrasil don’t exist.
I guess this works because torrenting doesn’t exist.
I guess this works because black markets don’t exist.
I guess this works because chat applications don’t exist.
To be a fly on the wall of these government meetings where they talk about this shit would surely be the funniest fucking thing in the world.
I want to be at the meeting a year from now where they realize only two people have ever signed up ‘Yay we fixed porn!’
Buy who am I kidding they brought VPN shares before this was introduced
and probably have some of the most depraved porn habits imaginable
Bought VPN shares and water shipping company shares because they know wasting money on this shit instead of on public infrastructure to provide more reliable clean water is only good for commercial interests.
You are right, it’s really stupid.
But it’s also stupid not to consider, that it’s not the real reason they made this in the first place.
They want to track you, and porn is the first excuse. If this is a success you might need this passport for alot of other things.
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it’s for the children!
They said as they erode more freedom/privacy for the general population.
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