The point I’m trying to make is that I don’t think the CCP cares about the users of deepseek mobile app when they already have an ocean of data from tiktok. That’s the real trojan horse.
Mobile access to an LLM is a similarity. The big difference between chatgpt and deepseek is the open model weights.
Bad intentions? The Chinese government Deepseek showed that the OpenAI emperor had no clothes.
Dude, you are the one inserting words like “freedom” trying to slide the conversation.
China is not worse , principally because worse is unmeasurable.
No one was talking about openness, we were talking about data collection.
The only way to ensure no data collection is to run locally, which requires openness.
You’re comparing online models with local models.
Correct
Local OpenAI models are also private.
They don’t exist, and privacy cannot be guaranteed.
Good thing no one said that. It’s not just America either.
So you do think that.
Most countries are significantly more free than China (and Russia and North Korea),
The word used was “worse” which is highly subjective.
and if you don’t believe that, you need to open your eyes.
Residents of “the land of the free” don’t understand irony.
Where is the ChatGPT repository?
Then why are you asking binary questions about countries
Because a highly opinionated binary statement was made about China. I’m not saying China is better than the US. I’m saying it’s not worse.
You asked “which countries”.
Countries and LLM model providers associated with those countries.
All openai data goes to the NSA
Online deepseek data goes to the CCP. Local models stay private.
You can’t possibly believe China is not much much worse than the US.
When it comes to AI models, China is streets ahead in openness.
But if you are introducing other factors, ask an Iranian what they prefer; money from China or bombs from the US and vassal states?
The only people believing that Americans are superior in everything are Americans.
There are also many others in US and worldwide.
We are comparing chatGPT and Deepseek.
China is worse when comparing many other factors
Again, not an opinion everyone agrees on. And this very much depends on which factors are cherry picked.
but if ALL you care about is whether the model weights are os,
If you want privacy then you need to run locally, and to run locally all you do care about is model weights.
then it is usually not decided by countries, but rather companies.
Not sure why this dimension is worth adding to the discussion.
I mean we can generally agree that China is worse.
Can we? Which country had open sourced it’s models and weightings so that the LLM can be run locally and spyfree?
The only thing diferentianting them from Apple now is the pricing, which hasn’t reached outrageous levels ( yet ).
Software is priced at Apple levels.
I have one in my car, but the glovebox is where things get forgotten.
Maybe a small Swiss Army knife would be a good investment.
I understand the logic, but I’ve never been in a situation when I thought “I wish I had a pocket knife”
I wish primer had an 20% extra budget so they could make the last act make sense. It just needed a few more explanatory scenes.
Time crimes (Spanish: Los cronocrímenes) is my absolute favourite in the genre.
Oh yes. Jumanji 2 (3?) was mainly unoriginal callbacks to the previous movie.
The first step off the boat sets the pace.
I loved the 5 questions.
WWF wrestler discovers magic sunglasses and yuppie aliens. It’s a John Carpenter film and has one of the longest fist fights.
Customers will use traditional money transfers to send money to a digital Exchange and in return receive (anonymized) digital cash. Customers can use this digital cash to anonymously pay Merchants. Merchants can redeem the digital cash for traditional money at the digital Exchange. As Merchants are not anonymous, they can be taxed, enabling income or sales taxes to be withheld by the state while providing anonymity for Customers.
The digital exchange seems to be centralised.
Saying goodbye to the bereaved at the end of the funeral.
“Thank you, I had a lovely time”
I’m not saying it’s less likely. I’m saying there is a completely different reason for deepseek to exist.