TL;DR

  • The European Council has ended its adoption procedure for rules related to phones with replaceable batteries.
  • By 2027, all phones released in the EU must have a battery the user can easily replace with no tools or expertise.
  • The regulation intends to introduce a circular economy for batteries.
  • 0421008445828ceb46f496700a5fa6@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Hopefully this doesn’t go the way of charging cables and we have a different battery shape for every phone… Otherwise a 2040 regulation will be to standardize battery shape(s)

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      1 year ago

      Battery shape (and connector) will sadly still be a thing for a long time, and usually it’s for engineering reasons, so I don’t really think it will be possible to standardize it

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        1 year ago

        We really should just adopt the “best one” that becomes the standard. Only change it with significant advancement

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          1 year ago

          There isn’t one “best one”. Always depends on requirements, which vary by device, underlying technology and use case.

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          1 year ago

          It depends on the layout of the phone though. Size of camera module, placement of fingerprint sensors, other sensors/modules, heat sinks. You name it, really.

          As such the batteries tend to be oddly shaped, and even spread out in different places to get as much battery in as possible.

          The “best one” differs from phone to phone.

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    1 year ago

    It is a special day when there is happy tech news. This is a day for celebration. Having done my own battery replacements some have been a nightmare to do with all the glue and hoping the screen doesn’t break. I look forward to this, since with rise of phone costs I don’t intend to update frequently. I’d actually change my battery annually if it wasn’t such a hassle.

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    1 year ago

    FANTASTIC. I’m just disappointed that it’s as far away as 2027 and not 2024 or 2025 :(

    Edit: Oh, I just read this part

    By 2027, all phones released in the EU must have a battery the user can easily replace with no tools or expertise.

    So…I’m sure us North Americans will still get screwed with nonreplaceable batteries :(

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      1 year ago

      Not really as a design change as drastic as user exchangeable batteries means phone companies would probably rather adopt a unified design (removable batteries) than a region based design

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      1 year ago

      Well some GDPR implementations did make it across the pond for the sake of simplicity so I imagine this might go the same way.

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        1 year ago

        In the case of GDPR it is not just for simplicity. It’s because companies that operate in the EU need to provide those protections to all EU citizens, even those across the pond. You cannot check if someone is an EU citizen so if you operate in the EU you effectively need to treat everyone like an EU citizen.

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    1 year ago

    I don‘t know how to feel about this. While It’s nice to be able to replace the battery, I very much prefer the durability of todays phones over those flimsy removable back plates that used to be common in the 00s.

    I really hope they mean that no special tools/skill are required. They should just standardize one type of micro screwdriver that everyone has to use.

    Replaceable batteries inevitably also have to be sturdier s.t. they don‘t pose a fire hazard, making the entire phone bulkier or reducing battery life.

    My iPhone XR is now over 4 years old and battery capacity is still at 80%, getting me through the day easily.
    Before that I had an iPhone 4s where I replaced the battery after ~6 years. I was really disappointed with the new battery and ended up buying a new phone anyway after a few weeks.

    My phone is the device that I use the most by a huge margin. It doesn‘t bother me too much if I have to replace it every 5-6 years. And I‘m pretty environmetally conscious in general.

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        1 year ago

        Yeah. If you owned one and don’t get all your information from memes on reddit, they were incredibly flimsy. It was all cheap ass plastic that was clipped in, they would break and your phone would be heald together by hopes and dreams.

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    1 year ago

    Are there any devices that allow a replaceable battery and wireless charging? I know battery swapping can become common, but I also do not want to lose a feature that I currently enjoy.

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    1 year ago

    The headline says it’s official. But then the article mentions -

    Now, the only step left is for the European Council and Parliament to sign on the dotted line.

    So it’s not official?? Can anyone explain please??

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    1 year ago

    One thing I haven’t seen mentioned is that this will inevitably make batteries smaller.

    If you are supposed to be able to open the phone and remove the battery manufacturers need to design a way to remove the cover, shield other components, create a compartment for the battery, and use sturdier batteries. All of those things take us space. Manufacturers aren’t just going to make phones thicker so that physical space has to be eaten by something… and it’s going to be the battery.

    I really liked having a removable battery on my phone 10 years ago in case I had a particularly long/intensive day. But now that I make it through a day without worry this could actually be sorta annoying.

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      1 year ago

      If we are gonna get removable batteries there needs to be a standard battery format so that each company won’t have its own special battery design. One battery design for all devices. This way the battery will work in whichever phone you put it in.

  • esty@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    if this makes batteries smaller so be it

    let’s go back to 2012 and carry a few of them at a time

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      1 year ago

      There’s no need. Battery tech has advanced substantially. There is no reason phones shouldn’t last all day and then some, then when the battery becomes shitty, replace it instead of massive e-waste. We’re lucky the EU exist.