• Rolder@reddthat.com
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    And then you look at their original 1988 charter,

    https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

    Where they say…

    Moreover, if the links have been distant from each other and if obstacles, placed by those who are the lackeys of Zionism in the way of the fighters obstructed the continuation of the struggle, the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah’s promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:

    “The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.” (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).

    Or,

    “ Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory). “

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      9 months ago

      Well no. Because this charter is meant to supersede that. Just like nobody accuses the US of banning alcohol after having replaced that amendment with one saying alcohol is fine again. Trying to hang the original charter around their neck like an anchor is a propaganda thing meant to prevent them from moderating.

      Do we want less violence or more?

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        9 months ago

        Considering they have still been launching rockets at civilian centers not to mention killing innocent Israelis, taking hostages, etc since putting in the new charter, Im not sure I believe them.

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          9 months ago

          Since Israel has been killing civilians at the fastest rate since World War 2, I’m not sure I believe their statements.

          But if there’s to be peace there must be a good faith effort. And Israel has never shown that.

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            9 months ago

            Neither has Hamas. There are no good guys in this conflict, which is what makes it very difficult.

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              9 months ago

              Hamas stood for election on a moderate platform. But Israel immediately declared war on them. Hamas reduced their demands for peace to an end of the occupation and an actual Palestinian state. Israel scoffed and bombed hospitals because the doctors were political members of Hamas.

              They also attempted to take part in the Trump administration negotiations and got locked out. They then waited for Biden, and got nothing.

              How long does one keep writing letters before they pick up a musket?

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                9 months ago

                And they have been firing rockets the entire god damn time, so I don’t believe they are moderate at all, sorry

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                    9 months ago

                    Also, firing rockets at densely populated civilian centers is “defending yourself” LMAO

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                    9 months ago

                    My favorite part is when there have been ceasefires or other attempts at peace, where Hamas says nah and just keeps attacking anyway