The Firefox ToC discussion pushed me down the browser engine rabbit hole (again). Have you had a chance to daily drive some really good but obscure web engine that is not Gecko (Firefox), WebKit (Apple) and Blink (Chromium)? How viable is it for a complete switch - this includes banking, chatting, logging into websites, etc.
Edit: Added link to the Firefox discussion to give better context to my question.
Zen
Internet Explorer 11
(just kidding)
I use qutebrowser, it’s a keyboard driven browser that uses QtWebEngine (based on Chromium).
Fennec (Firefox based)
Please don’t bank with a bleeding edge web engine that isn’t forked from one that’s been around for decades. It’s really not secure to use things that people haven’t had time to attack yet.
I’m going to stick with some form of Firefox fork, personally. Chromium forks are questionable, as if I recall right they include a binary blob provided by google, which could be hiding god knows what.
Firefox is fully open source, so any code supporting this potential data harvesting can’t hide, and will be removed by most forks.
I used librewolf until there was some concern about them updating in a timely manner.
Now I used Firefox with Phoenix to maybe get the best of both worlds and IronFox on mobile.
with the recent news of a ToS from FF which forks would you recommend as a daily driver to replace FF?
Librewolf has been solid for me. I’ve seen others plug waterfox as well
Articfox librewolf
On one of my OSes, I still use Brave.
holy shit fearless freep
I don’t think there are any viable engines other than the three you mention. Other browsers than the three you mention are viable, I am typing this in LibreWolf, but they are all based on one of these three engines.
I recently tried Ladybird and it crashes e.g. when I try to access my Lemmy instance. Definitely not viable yet in 2025, but this doesn’t mean it must remain so.
I’ve been using Orion on iOS for a while. It’s not bad.
I’ve been using IronFox on mobile since Mull went away, but I’m ready to hear why that’s a bad option from anyone who knows better.
So far its worked very similarly to Mull, in that I’ve had no issues with it so far. I don’t do banking or financial shit on my phone though, so I can’t comment on how well it works for that functionality.
Reminds me to check out lynx again.
I’ve used librewolf and it seems good but I’m not a browser expert.
seamonkey but it’s pretty hard to use without much love nowadays with so many incompatible websites. It’s a perfect mail client tho.
Just get Firefox ESR with arkenfox, that should be enough.
Deskstop Mullvad and librewolf
Android fennec