- cross-posted to:
- news@beehaw.org
- cross-posted to:
- news@beehaw.org
Donald Trump has said that Palestinians have “no alternative” but to leave Gaza due to the devastation left by Israel’s war on Hamas, in effect endorsing ethnic cleansing of the territory over the opposition of Palestinians and the neighbouring countries.
Speaking as he prepared to host Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, on Tuesday, Trump repeated the suggestion that Gaza’s population should be relocated to Jordan and Egypt – something both countries have firmly rejected.
Trump claimed Palestinians would “love to leave Gaza”, telling reporters: “I would think that they would be thrilled.”
“Vote for candidate A who supports genocide.”
“Vote for candidate B who supports genocide.”
“Don’t vote and be loud about it so that in the next election, the losing party is hopefully forced to have a candidate that doesn’t support genocide to get your vote.”
Which one of those 3 has at least a theoretical chance of helping (even if it may be too late by then)?
I am not saying it was worth it, considering how much worse Trump is on most other issues. It probably wasn’t. But if Palestine is the only issue you care about, it makes sense to not vote.
So the answer is nothing. You’ve done nothing.
Not one phone call, not one form e-mail, let alone actually go somewhere.
How many Palestinians have you even talked to about their needs and desires?
I’ve contacted MLA’s and MP’s about it for every single federal and provincial election for the last 15 years as well and going to protests regularly to stop this shit. It doesn’t work because liberals won’t also pressure politicians and instead would call out leftists for not supporting the right genocide candidate.
Got it, everyone give up and don’t push politicians to do the right thing because it doesn’t work.
Not at all what I said but go off.
You literally said it doesn’t work. You used those three specific words in that order.
It only isn’t working because of people like you. You are enabling genocide. This is my entire point dude. Are you being intentionally obtuse? Because it’s exhausting.
It isn’t working because I do the exact same thing you stopped doing because it wasn’t working?
That makes zero sense.
I didn’t stop doing anything, what are you even talking about man?
Ah right, because US politicians care so much about calls and e-mails from Europeans who can’t vote for them.
Plenty of European politicians support this war too. How many of them did you contact?
And you didn’t answer my question about Palestinians. How many have you talked to about their needs and desires?
Oh, right, I forgot I should have checked first if they wanted a bomb dropped on their head or literally anything else.
Thankfully in Europe, we have more choices than two genocidal maniacs, so I could just vote for ones that don’t support genocide.
Not that it changes much, since US is the only country actually sending significant material support to Israel and diplomatically shields them from consequences.
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Got it. You know what is best for the little Palestinians and you don’t have to do any hard work, just vote.
Also, this is just a lie:
I mean let’s just start with Germany… https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/scholz-says-germany-will-supply-israel-with-weapons-defend-itself-2024-10-17/
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Yeah, it’s almost as if people claiming they vote or not vote as something that counts as effort and helping a situation is some virtue signalling bullshit. Congratulations on missing the entire fucking point.
And yes, I do go out of my way to talk to Palestinians. It really isn’t hard to do. You just apparently think you know better than them what their needs and desires are, so you don’t bother.
Anything but make the slightest bit of effort, apparently.
You are the only one missing the point.
But continue, tell us what you did (on the advice from the Palestinians) that made anywhere near the difference voting can.