have you bought their vpn service? ;)

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Im sure if you think on it you’ll eventually figure it out.

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Because you’re being intentionally dense. their personal votes are what they are talking about. These are the people who fucking showed up and voted regardless of the shit campaign.

The genocide definitely cost harris Wisconsin and Michigan. 25 points right there.

For example: My state harris won, my vote third party jill, would have in no way changed the outcome here. As I’ve been informing everyone for two months. But harris is missing 20 million votes biden received. Where are they?

Why did these individuals not vote for harris?

maybe because shes been gaslighting america on live tv for years during the biden admin? Over biden’s mental acuity, over what was going on in gaza etc.

Maybe because she didn’t put forward a single decent economic policy to counter the absolutely shit perception of the biden admin?

Maybe, just maybe, people were so disgusted with her continued support of a genocide they fucking stayed home instead of voting for a gaslighting trash heap of a campaign?

You dweebs like to crow about the electorate having short memories. but the reality is that they actually have long memories and you can’t do the shit biden and harris have done and expect people to show up for you without a huge fucking carrot.

And you wouldn’t even contemplate that ‘hey the arabs just want us to stop murdering their friends and family. huh. maybe we should do that?’

So yes, continue thinking those like myself are at fault. I’m fine with your scorn. I don’t particularly care if you dislike me. Just remember that your support for a genocide just cost you multiple election cycles in Michigan and Wisconsin. THAT community is unlikely to forget what you, biden, harris, and the DNC did to them.

Now if anyone wants resources to look into anything I’ve said here and are open to working towards replacing the DNC feel free to reach out. always happy to connect with people who actually give a shit.

Michigan and Wisconsin, two states representing 25 pts. If you don’t look at the fucking margins in a neck and neck race, yeah you fucking lose. Harris failed to make any changes to policy throughout the campaign despite being underwater the entire fucking time.

This loss is entirely on her and the DNC.

We didn’t allow anything. harris failed to win our votes. direct your ire correctly. I’ve been telling you this for 2 months. you’re still failing at basic reasoning on how voting works.

Palestinians are dead either way unless harris committed to stopping israel. and she wouldn’t. she threw out the 25 electoral points Michigian and Wisconsin represent as a result. She failed to run a campaign on policies that would win her the election.

We don’t owe you dweebs anything. You repeatedly fail to realize that people won’t help you when you don’t help them. and the DNC hasn’t done shit for the working class or the arab community and they just fucking burnt a bridge that’ll likely be impossible to rebuild.

You want peoples support for ukraine, LGBT, etc? learn you need to build connections with others to get support. esp when you’re pet projects are also minority groups.

And a reminder: your jews for peace work is completely ineffectual when it comes to the president/congress supplying arms to israel. most of your work has ridden on the coattails of arab groups pushing their initiatives. So while stopping the settlement funding is a grand idea; by the time you managed to do it the palestinians would have already been dead or gone.

thats okay, you just need to look at harris and the dnc for your answers. apparently streams of articles, local representatives speaking up, members of the diplomatic core speaking out and they amazing decided that ‘yes, genocide is the answer to our electoral struggles’

it is definitely baffling in a tight race tossing 25 electoral points in the trash could be construed as a ‘good decision for palestinians.’ but here we are and thats what they did.

Now the world is going to suffer because of their hubris. enjoy. maybe next time tell your candidate to get a backbone to do the right thing and you need to grasp human nature.

go check out democracynow gaza section. maybe you can get some perspective on exactly how kamala/biden and general media have been gaslighting you. Everytime a hamas leader was murdered and harris would say ‘now we can achieve a ceasefire’ she was gaslighting you. a ceasefire with the release of hostages had been agreed to by hamas for months since may. Every time she said she would work towards a ceasefire, she was gaslighting you.

the palestinians were fucked no matter who won.

But harris had the option to potentially win if she was willing to:

1. throw biden under the bus policy wise.
2. commit to upholding american laws w/ respect to isreal.
3. commit to keeping kahn as head of FTC.
4. commit and campaign on actually fighting corporations.

but noooo. its the voters fault for harris being absolutely dog shit both morally and policy wise.

yeah shame that. maybe kamala should of thought about that before committing herself to a genocide joe allowed.

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I like how you flipped the script by blaming the group (the voters) and not the individual responsible (the DNC) for making the horrible decisions resulting in an ongoing genocide.

No they certainly shouldn’t go to church. The next thing they’ll be doing is beheading people for wearing the wrong color socks. They need a therapist not a preacher.

How does it feel to be an entitled supporter of genocide? How’s your sleep? Do you need someone to talk to?

However I understand the importance of this election and I understand how our system works.

your actions say otherwise. you understand what you want to avoid. but you don’t know how to actually avoid it.

Voting 3rd party does nothing but pull votes from Democrats.

does it? i’ve never seen evidence of this. I’ve seen 3rd party candidate pull enough votes that if they were applied to democrats they would have won. But there is no evidence those votes would have gone to the democrat if the third party was absent. This is a fiction you’ve made up in your head to appease your ego and to place blame on others.

What really is happening here is you’re upset that your candidate lost and you want to blame others instead of the candidate for being a horrible human. Harris can fix her genocidal chains, she won’t, but she could. And worse if she does lose then the entire basis of you voting for the lesser evil is proven ineffectual further damaging your self image because now not only did the evil you wish to prevent succeeded, but you compromised your morals and enabled a genocide.

Its a shame really the lies we tell ourselves.

I love watching you work @TheOubliette@lemmy.ml. note taking though I still going to be more of an ass than you are to people.

Welcome to the brotherhood of being a human being, though I suspect you’ve been here for some time. we respect your choice to vote for harris.

When? Im not an Oracle. May take decades. May get worse before it gets better in certain areas. The USSR took a generation to collapse.

Im hoping harris move to the right enough and manages it. So we can split the dem party finally.