Yep, once anyone can download an app on their phone and do something like this without any effort in realtime it’s going to lose its (shock) value fast. It would be like sketching a crude boobs and vagina on someones photo with MS Paint and trying to use that for blackmail or shaming. It would just seem sad and childish.

Practical, but not really equivalent though because of nil punning.

The locking down started with the original MacIntosh (or actually with the Lisa I guess). ISTR they had at least one bit more open period after that, but those have always been the exception.

Wouldn’t it be more correct to say that most Americans also use a messaging app (iMessage). The rest are just stuck with SMS to have compatibility with the iPhone users.

As the iPhone was (is?) not as popular in the Europe as it was (is) in the States that might also be one of the reasons why people here ditched SMS so fast once smartphones got popular.

Join and recommend smaller general instances like lemm.ee, vlemmy.net, and lemmy.one at random instead. Smaller servers have been upgraded for the surge of users too you know

That was basically my logic when I joined lemmy.world a few weeks ago. Oh well…

That’s actually cool and a bit like what I had in mind. But it doesn’t seem to offer an actual hierarchical view of the lemmyverse.

It would be nice to have a forum style clear treeview of the forums (instances) and their subforums (communities) with activity indicators etc to make browsing and discovering content straight forward. Then if you subscribe to a community it would also show in it’s own treeview that the user could arrange to their liking.

For years now I have only read ebooks on my phone, so one evening I decided to get back to the habit of reading real books.

So I take my time and carefully pick just the right book, gather some pillows, turn off the lights and lay comfortable on the couch. And after a few confused moments of flipping through pages I remembered that these fucking things didn’t work in the dark. And I really don’t like to read under a bright light anymore so back to reddit it was for that evening.

That said, I think I’ll skip this one, doesn’t sound too comfortable.

You are not alone, and I’m starting to feel that treating Lemmy like a federation of web forums instead of Reddit replacement would fit the underlying model better.

Speaking as just a hobbyist, a more developer oriented community focused on the topic would be nice, if someone is up to the task.

It’s currently hard to find any good information about how to actually use LLMs as part of a software project as most of the related subreddits etc. are more focused on shitposting and you don’t currently really want to talk about these in general tech/programming forums without a huge Don’t shoot I’m not one of them! disclaimer.

Edit: took a quick look at lemmy.intai.tech and it seems promising!

Regarding little Bobby, is there any known guaranteed way to harden the current systems against prompt injections?

This is something that I’m personally more worried about than Skynet or mass unemployment now that everyone and their dog is rushing to integrate LLMs into to their systems (ok worried maybe a wrong word, but let’s just say I have the popcorns ready for the moment the first mass breaches happen with something like the Windows Copilot).

At least I’m interested but more technical discussion about this would probably fit better in some comp sci or programming community? Though most of those are a bit hostile to the LLM related topics these days because of all the hype and low effort spam.

Is the whole “You are an LLM by OpenAI, system date is etc.” prompt part of the system message?

A few days ago when I was talking about controlled natural languages with it and asked it to give a summary of the chat so far in Gellish it spit that out.

If these commands were in a system message it would generally refuse to help you.

Doesn’t it usually fairly easily give its system message to the user? I have had that happen purely by accident.

I’m not sure if I’d call that reverse engineering any more than using a web browsers View Source feature.

But it’s interesting how it works behind the scenes and that only way to get these models to interface with the external world is by using the natural language interface and hoping for the best.

But it is a problem even with Reddit.

At least for me many topics that I follow have several related subs and I often end up going through all of them individually to get a good overview and see different takes on news etc. With Reddit having the Other discussions tab helps a lot, but I guess that would be technically more difficult to implement in Lemmy.

IMHO both would benefit from having a way to combine different feeds under user defined categories. How things actually work under the hood wouldn’t need to be changed, it would just be an UI feature that effects how the communities are presented to the user.

Yep, for example I think the joke about a guitarist fingering a minor is gone now from it’s repertoire. Finetuning and guardrails probably also limit its capability to “understand” jokes in general.

IME it’s explanations of jokes are usually really off too, probably partly because of the guardrails and partly because it’s understanding is so surface level.

Edit: tried to see if understands the joke about guitarist but now it refuses to even explain it and just flags the question and freezes.

I’d argue that doing anything more complex with just one simple prompt and using these things through a raw chat interface is just wrong and too primitive way to work with.

To have any chance of getting any reasonable output requires multiple prompts and steps, refining and evaluating the responses and going back and forth and is something that will probably be automated in the actual end products that use this technology.

Current ChatGPT style interface is like asking application end users to directly interface with a SQL database, instead of just offering them an interface layer that hides and automates all the details.

This now begs the question for me as a user: Which one do I subscribe to if I want to stay informed? An article on one side could be submitted or gain traction when it does not on the other. But subbing to both could lead to a lot of duplicate articles being fed to me.

Theres nothing stopping the client from offering a different or entirely customizable view to the content.

For example the client could allow user to place those communities under a common News category in their client. Then the client would combine all identical links in the category according to some criteria (e.g same link posted in the same day would count as identical) and either merge the comments or let the user pick which communitys comments to see, or preferably both. So comments section could have a buttons for “Comments at news@beehaw.org”, “Combine comments” etc.

I think it should be possible to build a client that hides most of the details about different instances and such so it would function almost the same as traditional RSS readers.

I don’t know, Reddit and Lemmy differ from common social media platforms (I wouldn’t really call Reddit style forums social media anyway) in that they are structured around different topics/categories and threads and in that way are closer to earlier newsgroups, bbs’s, forums and such. So the main concepts aren’t really that new and weird, we have had subforums, topics, groups, channels and such for decades now.

To me subinstance sounds more like a technical term, but I guess people would just call them subs anyway. I think that’s a problem in general with deriving anything from “instance”.

I guess community does a good job at being a more human centric term. You have the technical side of things, servers and software (instances) and on those you have the actual user facing parts (communities) so in that way it’s kinda fitting.

Further overthinking about the terminology I just realised that Lemmy calls joining communities “subscribing” and Reddit calls it “joining”, while I would naturally think it would be more fitting the other way around. Naming things is hard.