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  • “Sam Altman or Elon Musk about the “existential risk” artificial general intelligence poses to humanity”

    The full quote is “UNLIKE self-serving warnings from Sam Altman or Elon Musk about the “existential risk” artificial general intelligence poses to humanity”. In other words, they’re actively denigrating Musk and Altman, and you’ve taken the quote entirely out of context, in direct opposite to the original meaning.



  • It astounding that you can’t think of why government kidnapping is a bad thing. They have no right to take kids from homes because they want to “tame the savages”.

    Did you miss my big, big disclaimer? “excepting the potential for abuse of this precedent”.

    In the case under discussion, the parents are convicted major criminals, there’s a big difference from targeting a certain race. I do agree it’s a potential slippery slope.

    It’s not morality to teach kids about all the options they can choose to earn a living.

    You can teach the kids their options, but the home environment obviously exerts a greater influence, especially if they are brought up to glorify it.

    I have a serious, non-rhetorical question that I’m honestly interested in an answer to. Given that the parents and family have proven themselves to be bad influences and unfit guardians, why would we WANT to continue exposing the kids to their influence? This question is specific to this situation, not about the potential for abuse of the law in other situations. I don’t have a dog in this fight, I appreciate hypothetical discussions.


  • Another option is to imprison mafia members, it’s much more difficult to influence children from prison.

    The mafia have been managing it for generations, so that option obviously doesn’t work.

    Education is probably the best, showing kids they have better options will do wonders.

    We’ve had this discussion many times, though from the opposite side. School and education is for teaching kids facts and about the world, but they do not (nor should they) have the capacity to be substitute parents. And that’s for neglectful parents, much less parents who are actively teaching the kids negative values.

    All in all, excepting the potential for abuse of this precedent, I’m not sure why this is such a bad thing. The parents and family have proven themselves to be bad influences and unfit guardians, why would we WANT to continue exposing the kids to their influence?