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Cake day: June 11th, 2023

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  • Oh, believe me I 100% agree with you on both points. Just look through my history, 110% agree in full. The DNC’s choice, while frustrating, made sense. I think acting early would have been the way to actually get a primary, and that wasn’t happening because Biden decided he wasn’t a 1 term President for a little while. Because of this people around here blame the DNC for causing this situation in the first place, which I’m 50/50 on. The situation was from the DNC, but at the same time, if Harris wasn’t your first choice and you have no other alternatives, why the heck didn’t anyone vote for Ranked Choice Voting on their ballot? It failed nation wide. And people point out that abortion won in red states, as if that changes my point? Granted, ranked choice could have been different for each states ballot, I’m not certain on what the specifics are for each state, or why they might have failed if abortion passed.

    However in post election, the Greens got what, 1 million votes? At least they voted, at all. I don’t really think it’s the greens and most of those voters that were telling people to not vote. The fact of the matter is that with our numbers in the electoral college, they all could have voted for Harris, all Democrats could have voted for Stein, it wouldn’t have mattered, because people didn’t show up to vote.

    I think that it was a combination of a lack of enthusiasm for Harris after staying so strongly pro-Israel instead of more heavily actively campaigning for, at the very least, a two state solution. Though really we all know that we want the genocide to end, and that was all the campaigning that would really be needed.

    It would be a different story if it was 75 million to 74 million (Harris) down to a swing state or two in the E.C., but it wasn’t. It was a blowout because people didn’t go vote.

    So whatever caused people to choose not to vote was really the issue. What those are though will be different depending on who you ask (and in reality, any answer is probably a correct answer for about a thousand people)









  • The issue isn’t how people used their votes. The issue is that 20 million people didn’t show up to vote.

    With the math available, every single Democratic voter could have voted 3rd party and Trump would still have won. Third party voters had little to no effect on this election, outside of those who were swaying to say don’t vote at all. 50 to 100 thousand third party votes from each state just don’t make the numbers needed for the E.C. votes.

    We needed voters, period. They didn’t show up.