NoneOfUrBusiness

Um… No US weapons, and reparations for the destruction in Gaza, the West Bank and Lebanon, for one. Then being forced to return settlements and take part in an equal and just peace. Pretty much fixing the mess they made.

Israel has more than just US interests on their mind.

I know, but my point is that Israel and Iran can never get along in their current state. Either Israel would have to stop being a US protectorate or Iran would have to submit to US interests. Neither is going to happen, so fruitful diplomacy isn’t possible. That (and the whole settler colonialism thing) is the core reason why they’ve been in conflict for decades. The US can’t buy Iran’s cooperation because Iran accepting that would itself be an act of submission. Israel has its own issues with Iran, but that’s irrelevant compared to (and caused by) the fundamental geopolitical incompatibility between the two states.

Israel 2024, and 2023, and 2022 and… you get the idea.

Don’t you hear? It’s a popular Palestinian pastime (alliterations anyone?) to pass by the Mossad on your way to work and cry over the atrocities committed against your people.

They’re not, but they’re currently committing 0 (zero) genocides.

They literally did before. Twice. I’m not pretending anything.

Because Israel has been an Apartheid state since its inception. Do you know what the Nakba is?

Hamas has been attacking Israel for a very long time

Not longer than Israel has been occupying Gaza. Don’t get your cause and effect mixed up.

and they’re not going to stop simply because Israel agrees to a ceasefire.

They literally did. Twice. Israel then proceeded to not uphold their end of the deal.

No, it wouldn’t, because Hamas would just re-arm and commit another Oct. 7th at an opportune point in the future.

There is no place for Oct 7th (or any other acts of resistance) in a fair and just peace. Hamas didn’t attack for the lols.

Uh… What? Israel’s raison d’etre in the modern Middle East is to cull Iranian influence because the US doesn’t want an independent major power in the region. And that’s before we get into the whole genocide business.

Uh… Not saying Syria and Iran are good guys, but I’m only counting one two governments with a history of committing genocide in the 21st century and they’re both US allies. And let’s not forget that the gulf states all practice slavery.

Edit: Brainfarted.

I mean this itself isn’t a problem, because who the fuck builds their headquarters in the middle of nowhere? But it’s ironic given they keep crying about Hamas headquarters being in residential areas (again, who builds their headquarters in the middle of nowhere).

Israelis have every right to be against.

They don’t. If they’d just call for an equal and just peace none of this would happen.

The only way I can see it happening is if the U.S. steps in to militarily enforce a two-state solution with a DMZ,

Or stop giving Israel weapons. That’d solve the qhole thing.

Israel is a country-sized military base that mostly pays for itself, and has one of the best intelligence agencies in the world (or maybe their rivals are just that bad). If Israel didn’t exist the Middle East would probably be much more united by now under the leadership of one or two regional powers instead of everyone but Iran and Syria being a US proxy.

Remember that many of those Jewish Americans are either anti-zionists or don’t care either way. Meanwhile almost every single Muslim American cares about the issue and will likely vote Democrat if they do anything but actively cooperate with genocide.

Okay I’d assumed it was necessary to declare war under international law (I know it’s not followed by many countries) but according to Google that’s not the case.

I see. That makes sense.

Not will be. Is. The blowback from last time was, among other things, Hezbollah.

I mean Iran doesn’t have nuclear weapons but they do have a nuclear program and it’s very easy to go from there to nukes. Correct me if I’m wrong but AFAIK the principle behind nukes is pretty simple and it’s modern geopolitics that makes them hard to get.

Israel has amassed such an arsenal, it can continue this shit on it’s own for a good while. An arms embargo would still be appropriate though

No way. First they can’t use some of those weapons without US approval. They’re made that way. Second, if they were running a more normal terror campaign (like shock and awe for example) that’d be correct, but they’re not. They’re carpet bombing Gaza and Lebanon using “precision” airstrikes. It’s an incredibly wasteful method of genocide that only has the advantage of being able to say “but we’re targeting terrorists”. No way they can keep up this nonsense without unlimited US weapons. Third, Israel would be eaten alive by its neighbors without US diplomatic (or “diplomatic”) support. Do you understand how much support any middle eastern leader would get by sayint “We’ll go fight Israel to save our Palestinian brothers”? The only reason it’s not happening and even Iran is leaving the job to its militias is because of the US carrot and stick.

Isn’t it only two fronts? I don’t think there’s much fighting going on in the West Bank, only one-sided slaughter.