Even 10 years ago the topic of this referendum would have been political suicide. Remember Rudd got crucified for apologising. It’s actually pretty positive that this referendum, as poorly executed as it was, actually happened.

Why not both?

I get you point but I genuinely want to live in a world where people are not forced to turn to engineering.

My first trip to Europe I experienced shock at the cultural aparthied I witnessed in big cities. It felt worse than what I’d seen in Anglo multicultural countries (US/UK/AU/NZ) which is not to say it doesn’t happen there but I could taste the racial tension in the air in EU