Buffalo Shooting Survivors Sue Social Media & Gun Companies::Survivors and a family member of a victim of the mass shooting at Tops supermarket in Buffalo, New York are suing social media platforms, gun companies, and the shooter’s parents.

  • Steve@communick.news
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    1 year ago

    Yah. I can agree with that. If the shooter had their own licensed gun, the survivors could (should) sue the state government for giving the guy a gun licence.

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      1 year ago

      That’s a reaction to an act rather than a solution to a problem.

      Whats the solution to stop the shootings even from licensed gun owners?

      • Steve@communick.news
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        1 year ago

        No idea. I’m just a random Steve on the internet who thinks if people routinely sued the state for mass shootings, the state would have some financial incentive to do something.

        There are people who study this stuff. I’m sure they have ideas.

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          1 year ago

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_immunity_in_the_United_States

          https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt11-5-1/ALDE_00013679/

          Sovereign immunity is a real thing and it’s hard to overcome. They may be able to sue a municipal government (county/parrish/city) but going after the State or the Federal govt means a lot of very efficiently walled off legal precedent to overcome. Even using bad faith arguments that can sometimes skirt around monetary damage for sovereign, it can still end up evaporating in the face of the the state/fed having to voluntarily be willing to be sued, not even looking at the cherry on top of the current established court views of the 2nd Amendment.

          I guess the point is, there’s no way, short of some weird amalgamation of liberal progressives and conservatives combining into a party that seems real election success over the course of a full decade, that most States and the US federal government would go all in on allowing themselves to be sued willingly. We’re more likely to get an Amendment to the U.S. Constitution passed.

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        1 year ago

        Improved education, prison reform that actually works, making jobs pay more money so people are strapped for cash all the time, making healthcare and education affordable, increased climate action so people can build towards a future they’re excited about…

        Gun control was a hellavalot more relaxed 50 years ago yet mass shootings were basically unheard of. So why is this just now a problem?