Firefox doesn’t implement the AudioData API, which is probably necessary for the waveform viewer and cropping tool Discord presents in the soundboard management UI.
Not everything is about Chrome DRM yall.
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Yet another experimental API only supported by Chrome. Chrome has always been like this, implementing experimental API that hasn’t been finalized yet. You might say they’re innovating to support new technologies, but actually it’s more like they’re doing whatever they pleased, as demonstrated by their removal of jpeg xl support despite web communities plea not to do so (a new more efficient image compression, but not made by Google so screw it), pushing manifest V3 and ad topics, and recent push for web environment integrity API.
How can they not support jpg xl? It’s such a huge thing
I think Moz helped write and supports this. I even think it’s (partially enabled in nightly?)
Not sure if these built in decoders are supported though. Seems a bit dangerous to expose native codecs directly from the web to be honest, since you’ll end up with wildly varying support across browsers.
Firefox and Safari is also implementing experimental features often.
I remember ages ago websites were all focused on “works best on Internet Explorer” or “please use Netscape for the best experience”
We managed a good solid decade after that where browsers all somewhat caught up to each other and now we’re going back that way again, with each website just YOLO implementing APIs that aren’t fully supported (with no polyfils or fallbacks)
When you did that back in IE7/8/9, you missed out on rounded corners or drop shadows, now whole parts of apps won’t work unless you’re on chrome 🤯
Any reason FF hasn’t implemented this?
This is an experimental API that hasn’t been finalized yet. Firefox devs has limited engineering resource and simply can’t keep up with Chrome’s push to implement experimental/proposal API. Safari also hasn’t implemented this yet because they also usually wait until the API finalized, which can take quite a while.
dont show firefox users any modern web feature
Hope you’ll continue to lick the Google even after Chrome implements DRM.
This isn’t a chrome is bad issue, this is a discord is bad issue. They shouldn’t be relying on an experimental feature.
im a firefox user
It appears the Reddit users that don’t read further than the title have arrived on Lemmy.
Shocking news: people are people everywhere, not just on ‘rival’ platforms.
Care to elaborate? I can’t make sense of your response
For some god damn reason he’s trying to turn this into a ‘reddit bad’ discussion.
codes a desktop OS specific program coded in C just to spite you
To be honest I absolutely hate everything being a browser app.
element / matrix instead
And their desktop client technically is a browser without omnibar.
Electron is not just a browser. It’s more like a native app framework that just happens to use HTML and CSS to render UIs. You can do anything the OS lets you do, not just what a browser environment would let you do.
Electron is an unholy fusion of Chromium and Node.JS. Nothing more, nothing less. It doesn’t ‘just happen’ to use HTML and CSS. It’s literally just a browser with most of the default browser UI being hidden. Something like React Native would better fit your definition.
Discord is such an obvious “stay the fuck away from” product.
With the same critical mass of users that most proprietary social media have, unfortunately. You’ll be lucky to find certain communities on Matrix at all.
Yep. Those companies make it easy to join so they capture big user bases and become the defacto standard. I had a bad feeling about discord from the beginning. Glad I managed to stay away. But I’m old and not really interested in most “communities” online, so it’s an easy decision for me. With instant messengers on the other hand…
I tried to use lyft on my computer yesterday to download a receipt for my expense report, it didn’t let me, kept telling me to download the Android app…
Everyone wants to force you to download their app now so they can collect your data, shove notifications down your throat, and push ads.
In the age of the internet, your attention is the most valuable thing a business can have and it costs them virtually nothing to harass you into giving it to them because people have no spine and won’t hold it against them.
I’m a little baffled by this one. File upload isn’t exactly some new HTML5.1 feature or anything. There’s no good reason they can’t have this handled properly.
EDIT - just for some additional context, I’ve never used this feature so I had no idea it was more than a mere file upload. Looks like Discord has chosen a non-standardized API that’s currently only in Chromium, but if it were up to me I’d try to budget some time for a simple fallback in case someone’s using Discord in Safari or FF.
It’s probably the AudioData API.
I bet if you switch user agents it works just fine.
Here’s what happens when you spoof a Chrome user-agent.
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I’ll probably use FF till I die (Let’s go Netscape!), but it’s not a perfect browser.
Just like Google search on Firefox Mobile.
I said 'fuck you" to Slack for similar reasons. Going to same the same to Discord now.
Because firefox doesn’t support it? Don’t see why it’s their fault
They implemented a feature that is only available in Chromium and not part of the web standards yet. It’s no different than websites that would only work on IE 20 years ago because of some proprietary Microsoft thing.
Except it’s not proprietary, and presumably there’s no other way to do it in the browser, so did discord really have a choice other than not implementing said feature?
On top of that, their desktop app uses essentially the same website in an internal browser, so unless they handicap themselves by not implementing anything firefox can’t support, I still don’t see how it’s their fault
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People use discord in the browser? Damn boi
It actually always worked better for me in my browser
Dafuck haha. What computer do you have?
It’s not a laptop. Not sure why that would matter though. The browser version works fine. If it didn’t, that wouldn’t be my pc’s fault, it would be discord’s.
I obviously meant any computer besides phones/tablets. Never heard of anyone that had less problems on the website, that’s just why I was wondering…
That’s my experience on my machine running Ubuntu. The reason was that Discord ran in their snap sandbox, while my browser is not sandboxed. This leads to the sandboxes app not working together with xdg-desktop-portal, which means that screen sharing doesn’t work.
Never use an app for what should be a web site.
It works better for me as an app. I don’t like my browsers to be cluttered like that. But if it fits your usecase
I fail to understand how opening a web site, which is all a browser does, can be defined as ‘cluttered’, but my use case is security while appears yours is to let corpos rummage through your files.
It’s inconvenient and disorganized to have it as an extra tab (taking up tab space) or browser window (same symbols), also it runs smoother for me within the app.
but my use case is security while appears yours is to let corpos rummage through your files
I care about UX & seems like I’m not the only one at that. If I would care about privacy and security I wouldn’t use discord, but matrix or sth.
As long as you don’t care about security, no problems.
That’s why I like Chrome’s (and various Chromium browsers’) ability to app-ify sites. Will create a .app in MacOS, .desktop in Linux, etc. Launches as what looks like an independent app with its own dock/launcher icon. Utilizes most of their PWA stuff.
Sadly, it looks like Chrome has hidden the option completely in the latest version unless you set a flag that will probably go away in a few releases. Edge makes it pretty clear.
I wish Firefox would bring the feature back. They deprecated it years ago and I use it heavily (only reason/time I use Chromium stuff on most of my machines)
I know it from Android and I was using it quite frequently as well. But in my opinion it’s better as a website alternative, compared to being a complete replacement for apps. Things are less buggy and more smooth for me that way.
It works better only because they intentionally hamstring the browser so you’ll do exactly that.
Not a big fan of conspiracy theories mate
Me either bloke
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Disabled telemetry in the settings, should be good right kappa
nope. Not at all.
Kappa = /s
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Discord is a web app, there’s no other way. You either use your main browser or the one they’re bundling it with.
If it’s just a WebApp, then why does one of the commenters have issues to run it without the browser?
See: https://feddit.de/comment/2192027
Edit: And I know that you’re right technically, still there is a difference in how you run it when using a browser vs Webapp.
Theoretically, it may have additional features when it’s bundled with Electron, but ultimately there’s nothing wrong with running it in the browser.
At least you can block some of the telemetry with uBlock or similar
Fair, but from a UX and technical perspective it’s a pain in the ass to use it like that
Why would you want to block their telemetry?
It is not like they’re using it to serve ads to you, and it should be better for everyone for developers to make decisions based on how users are actually using their app, no?It’s simple. Nothing that happens on my device is their data.
Any telemetry that isn’t explicitly opt in with zero consequence for not doing so should be the kind of illegal that gets every asset your company owns seized immediately for non-compliance. All user data collection is spyware.
The desktop client logs and sends lists of currently running processes by default, and they also collect usage data (which channels you open, how long for, who you’re interacting with). In the settings, there’s literally an option for “Use data to customize my Discord experience”. And sure, they don’t show ads, but their third-party integrations do. Article with sources
In the end, processing and storing millions of texts, images, videos and files permanently, and hosting all those live voice and video calls, and making updates to the clients, will always cost more than what they get from Nitro and server boosting. Discord isn’t profitable; they have to make the deficit up to shareholders somehow.
Invasions of privacy are bad per se, even if they don’t use them to serve ads
“even if you don’t use them to serve ads”, Which they do, just indirectly.
The problem is one of trust; there is none.
You kidding? That’s literally a troijan horse.
Imagine you buy a new showerhead and it came with a hidden camera sending data to the seller. The camera is enabled by default, with toggle hidden and difficult to find.
This is what it is when you enable telemetry by default.
There is FOSS wrapper for discord called webcord, if you have to use discord but want a bit more privacy.
3rd party apps tend to trigger discords sussy user detection and force you to add phone number
Webcord is hardly a 3rd party app. It’s essentially just a specialized web browser for the discord site.
To blacklist your number and ban you?
To monetize you sideways.
such a discord