SimpleX is a highly secure IM app, so does WireMin, but it is more than just a secure IM app.

First of all, they are in commons with some of their privacy-focused characteristics:

But why I would say that WireMin is more than just a secure messaging tool?

Here are some WireMin’s unique features that I discovered so far:

  1. Available on desktop device (Windows, MacOS, Linux), because decentralized network may cause high amount of cellular data usage when connecting with nodes.
  2. Boasting a Discovery section to connect with all WireMin users.
  3. Feed space for* blog posting*, sharing anonymously.
  4. Public Chat space with unlimited members
  5. Web 3 aspect: ‘D-payment’ for crypto transfer while chatting with your friends
  6. Fast & Unlimited file transfer

All in all, if you are only looking for secure messaing tool, both SimpleX and WireMin can meet your need, but SimpleX is only a messanging tool, WireMin is a completely decentralized social network, as described on their web page “A new era of social network – Freedom”, basically it is more fun and useful than SimpleX.

Personally thinks that WireMin can replace Twitter, Facebook, and other big tech social media, these web2 platforms has override on users for too long, stealing and spying on their data. WireMin structuring everything differently through decentralization, which means data ownership and privacy right is 100% on user’s hand.

1con for SimpleX: It is not 100% decentralized, this is its disadvantage.

1 con for WireMin: Not open sourced, but it is on Alchemy dapp store. I have asked their dev team, responded as: “We are working on it.”

  • EyesEyesBaby@lemmy.worldEnglish
    21·
    1 year ago

    So one is not open source, the other is not decentralized. Both are equal when looking at your visual, there are only some very minor differences.

  • Decentralizr@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10·
    1 year ago

    Looks interesting, yet not open source? What is a d-payment? Some own coin stuff or erc20? Anyhow, I never used any of the two, and I wonder why we need more?

    • Campa@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Yeah, I asked the WireMin team, and they said they are working on open source.

      D-payment is not their own coin; it’s just a tool for WireMin users to transfer Bitcoin or Ether within the chat. It’s like sending out invoices (check out the picture; it was an airdrop within their official chat room).

      I would say both of them did not do much on marketing probably? Even though they are not as famous as Signal or Elements, what I see from them is that they are using a decentralized structure to enhance the security of private messaging tools. For example, Signal requires a phone number to register, whereas SimpleX and WireMin do not require any personal information to create an ID, making them 100% anonymous. Plus, Signal is a centralized platform, which means all data is kept in one place, potentially resulting in data leaks. However, this is not the case with decentralized platforms.

      • Chewy@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        I’d like Signal to not require a phone number but is pretty much a feature that it uses them. I only chat with people I know and those people sometimes want to call me. Having the phone number as the single identifier is great, else I’d have to maintain more.

        Obviously it’s not good to use a phone number for many other use cases. And centralization etc isn’t great either, except for ease of onboarding etc.

        What I can say is that I’d never use any more private messaging platforms that aren’t foss and federated. There’s too many closed and proprietary systems already on my phone.

  • BitSound@lemmy.worldEnglish
    101·
    1 year ago

    I’ve never heard of either of these. I’ve got Signal and Element/Matrix. Why should I care about anything else?

    • SimpleDev@infosec.pubEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      I disliked signal app wise, and Matrix app was a buggy mess for me and the 4 other people who tried to use it as well

      SimpleX was easy to setup and has been for the most part stable for all of us.

      Basically to answer your question, people like different things.

      SimpleX isn’t perfect by any means but it seems to be developed at a somewhat decent pace with noticeable improvements being made.

      • inspxtr@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        1 year ago

        Except for signal, matrix is also decentralized. I understand what you meant tho. I think matrix still stores user data on servers, but they could be encrypted. Others who know please correct me.

          • hh93@lemm.eeEnglish
            9·
            1 year ago

            But everyone can host their own server?

            Also because you can’t be sure with an open source application like matrix you should trust applications like those linked here that are either closed source or centralised?

            Especially since it has.the crypto included by default makes me very sceptical of it.

            Also why compare 2 tools that no-one heard of and is using and not add stuff like signal or matrix to the comparison? Probably since it would’ve let those 2 look worse?

          • DigitalPortkey@lemmy.worldEnglish
            6·
            1 year ago

            No offense, but saying this almost completely disqualifies you from having this conversation about private messengers.

  • JoBo@feddit.ukEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    Fash paradise. Will be giving this one a miss until and unless it proves otherwise.

    • themarty27@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      What? Lemmy, the very platform you are currently commenting on, is decentralised and has nathing to do with blockchains at all. Do you think that only blockchains can be decentralised?