• Ukrainian’s shock offensive on Russia’s Kursk region came as a surprise even to Ukraine’s soldiers.
  • “We joked that it wasn’t April 1st,” a Ukrainian soldier told The Economist.
  • The country’s troops did suspect that an invasion was imminent after they were issued new equipment.
  • index@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    First open and read the article, there they talk about receiving “orders to invade russia”

    Doesn’t this make you rise an eyebrow?

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        4 months ago

        I guess i do. Do you not realize that receiving orders to invade another country is not a good thing?

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          4 months ago

          So you are against the Russian military invading Ukraine in 2014? And again in 2022? And Syria in 2015? And Georgia in 2008?

          Russia can end the fighting just by leaving Ukrainian territory. You are “against war”, so why not advocate for that?

          Edit: just ignore this guy. His posts are mostly downvoted.

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            Russia can end the fighting just by leaving Ukrainian territory. You are “against war”, so why not advocate for that?

            You are replying under a comment in which i said that receiving orders to invade another country is not a good thing. I’m advocating against other countries invasions, what exactly are you advocating for?

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              what are you advocating for?

              Probably a conversation, composed of logic, not tongues, riddles, idiocy and lunacy.

              If you’re here saying Ukraine is bad because it’s forcing people to go invade another country, and you’re going to make no effort to acknowledge the situations that have put them in a position to even need to have considered doing that, you’re an idiot.

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                Probably a conversation, composed of logic, not tongues, riddles, idiocy and lunacy.

                you’re an idiot.

                At last give it a try.

                If you’re here saying Ukraine is bad because it’s forcing people to go invade another country

                This is never a good thing, a government should never have the authority to force someone to go invade another country. Russia is doing exactly that, it’s forcing people to go invade another country.

                https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-preparedness-the-road-to-universal-slaughter

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                  What country has a system where SOLDIERS IN THE MILITARY can’t be forced to invade another country?

                  Like it’s a nice ideal, but considering your idea is novel and radical maybe start with countries that aren’t at war.

                  Second of all, once you’re at war, you’re at war. There is no “just defend your territory” because that means there is no reason not to invade you and no loss scenario for your invader, the worst outcome they lose some soldiers and your borders are unaffected. Once you are attacked you have to seek every legal advantage (see the Geneva convention) to obtain victory and repel your attackers. On that basis I’m not even sure your idea is sound or reasonable in the first place for a defending country. And in this specific scenario it’s just helping Russia.

                  I’m marking you as a Russian troll just to see how often you’re on here defending Russia by “just asking questions” about the actions of Ukraine while not holding Russia to any standard at all .

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              4 months ago

              You are replying under a comment in which i said that receiving orders to invade another country is not a good thing.

              Bending over backwards to avoid explicitly saying Russia did something bad lol

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          “Not a good thing?”

          So when we invaded Germany in WW2, that was a bad thing. We shouldn’t have done that? Jesus you are thick lol.

          Let’s just ignore context and nuance, just make sweeping statements like a 13 year old who thinks they’ve figured out the world.

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      4 months ago

      Turnabout is fair play. Russia has no immediate intensions to stop the war, so Ukrainians took the fight to them.