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      11 months ago

      Sure. What can Finland do to Russia for an appropriate measure? Now we seem to just try to hassle the other people stuck in the situation without a valid reasoning

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        11 months ago

        What can Finland do to Russia for an appropriate measure

        Shut that shit down by closing the border. It’s unfortunate Russia is using those people as a tool, now they might have to travel to a different border.

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          11 months ago

          Well they kinda don’t. We need to (and should) pick them up wherever they cross. So Russia actually doesn’t need to care about this show.

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            11 months ago

            There are places and proper border crossings to apply for EU asylum, visa that Russia isn’t using as part of their hybrid operation. They can go there. Those places are also much closer to their place of origin, so won’t have to travel so far either. Finland was just seen as an easy ticket to EU and Russia encouraged this.

            Too bad for those who have already paid to be brought to our border or were brought in by Russia, but it’s Russia who is to blame for the situation. They caused it.

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              11 months ago

              Of course Russia is to blame. The blame just simply can’t be let out towards the bystanders.

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                11 months ago

                They’re the tools in this, not just bystanders. Unless you’re talking about those going to fill up their car in Russia or something, but I don’t think that’s a huge concern.

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                  11 months ago

                  A human tool is still a human, instead of an object. The only principle in this whole bread and circus is that no harm is caused to other beings who are not responsible.

                  So we’re left to observe if we’re under a ruling class which fucks that up

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                    11 months ago

                    A human tool is still a human, instead of an object.

                    I was replying to you calling them bystanders.