• Alteon@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I’m not disagreeing with you. But the only people that get the right to travel in a car are the rich. Rather than it be based on a needs-based system or lottery system. The rich get the right, but normal people don’t. That’s the point he’s trying to make.

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      1 year ago

      I think it’s a clever way to get rich people to pay high taxes. Singapore is just not a place suited for private cars for the able bodied. The same policy in other countries wouldn’t be fair, but I could probably see it work in Manhattan or in the canal district in Old Amsterdam.

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      The catch is you don’t need a car in Singapore. It’s less than half the size of London with an incredible public transit system.

      The need isn’t really there and the costs of maintaining one is very high. You aren’t going to have many if any poor people who could afford a car to begin with.

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      I’m hella anti car but I agree with you. Car ownership should not be gated behind a crazy one time fee preventing all but wealthy people from driving. Design your cities properly and make insurance expensive enough to cover the increased cost of infrastructure required to accommodate private vehicles. If someone wants to waste their money on a car when they can more easily take transit/active transportation then they should be able to.

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        I have no idea what you’re saying here … It’s fairer to jack up insurance to not be affordable, than to make the car unaffordable to begin with?

        Design your cities properly

        They’re talking Singapore. It’s an island city with excellent transit, plus quite walkable. This is the poster child for “designing your cities properly”

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      1 year ago

      You can travel in a car, Uber, Grab and taxis allow you that convenience if you really need to go by car. It’s not about rich and poor. Having lived in SG and in HK, the public transport systems are really good, but I never felt the need for a car, indeed in HK the cost of parking alone is way higher than to use public transport. I have friends that live in the smaller villages that cannot survive without a car, but all they use it for is to drive to a convenient public transport hub.

      I’m a petrol head, I love cars and now I’m living somewhere that has almost no public transport, so I now have a car again and I enjoy the freedom and fun that I love about car ownership. But it doesn’t change my opinion about using public transport where it is the better option.

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        1 year ago

        Again, I’m not disagreeing with you about the good of public transit. I’m simply stating that car ownership is determined by how much money you have. The rich are allowed cars. You are not. That in and of itself is an unjust system regardless of how good or abysmal the public transit it. They are two totally different things.