• COASTER1921@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Although vaping is far more popular and at least better than smoking, it’s still actively bad for health. I’d be interested to see how a similar policy to ban vapes would go over in the west like they’re trying in Taiwan.

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      1 year ago

      Fast food, alcohol, motorcycles, and Instagram are also bad for your health. I’m not sure how vaping compares. Vaping is definitely easier to demonize.

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        1 year ago

        Motorcycles aren’t bad for your health. Crashing them is, but just driving them isn’t, even doing it a lot. Unlike the other things you mentioned where doing them a lot is unhealthy.

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          1 year ago

          Vaping isn’t bad for your health, it’s what you put into the vape that might be. There are already commonly used medical technologies that are adjacent to vaping, and many researchers think we will be able to use vaping in the future to replace hypodermic needles in some situations.

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          1 year ago

          They are statistically bad for your health.

          By your own argument, you would agree with the statement: “Smoking cigarettes isn’t bad for your health. Lung cancer is.”

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            1 year ago

            Nope, doesn’t need to end in lung cancer for it to be bad.

            Take it this way:

            You can drive motorcycle for hours every day for years and not take any health casualties from it.

            You can’t smoke cigarettes every day for years and not take any health casualties from it.

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        1 year ago

        That is indeed true, but don’t forget that vaping addiction comes from the nicotine inside it that gets into your body physically. Riding a motorcycle or being on Instagram are still addictive but they don’t “force” it upon you

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          1 year ago

          I actually don’t vape. I just see a vice that seems relatively harmless and I don’t think we should demonize it. Even if vape people are annoying.

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              1 year ago

              This article is why I’m against demonizing vapes.

              Regularly, you see these news articles about illegal vapes getting people sick. Because they are illegal and unregulated.

              Regularly, governments and media try to use those revelations to attack the legal vape industry, which works quite hard to make sure not to ever release vapes with high lead, nickel, or (the famous one) Vitamin E. The whole popcorn lung thing was practically an ad campaign where I live. They kept (accidentally I’m sure) leaving out that NOT A SINGLE ONE vape pen in my area that had Vitamin E in it came from our smoke shops or legal dispensaries.

              Why? To demonize vapes.

              I have a sister who vaped for a year before she got bored of it. I am grateful that we had a regulated industry that made sure the vapes she got her hand on weren’t going to really hurt her.

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      1 year ago

      actively bad for health

      Interesting turn of phrase. What is “actively bad for health”, really? Experts seem to be pretty convinced that as bad as Vaping might be, it’s not as bad as alcohol. And we in the US know what happens when you try to ban alcohol. I have Prohibition to thank for the incredible Whiskey industry of today.