Classic letting perfect get in the way of good. Firefox is excellent as is. Hate Mozilla? Get one of the quality forks. Which exist because we have firefox.
Vivaldi just has better features than Firefox. I’ll switch to Firefox when Vivaldi is forced to switch to V3 but until then I’m gonna continue to enjoy Vivaldi
Tab stacks and mouse gestures are the 2 that I use the most, that don’t exist in Firefox. Tab hibernation is also extremely useful, but I don’t know if that exists in Firefox.
And in general there are so many useful tools, like bookmarking by stack and/or window etc.
i don’t know why people are so allergic to firefox but it is the answer.
Basically because in the later year, the development of firefox took very curious directions, from trying to break some decades old, standard feature (only to revert when gmail users, of all things, complained en masse), to integrating many useless extensions (pocket anyone?) that you can’t remove and that are more and more difficult to disable. To say nothing of the occasional advertisement for irrelevant products. Basically, even if it’s on a smaller scale, using firefox today is starting to look like using windows: you have to fight it on every update to remove something they bork.
And I’m not even talking about the shit that happens at their mother business, Mozilla.
All of this is even more infuriating, because they could very easily not do it and still pursue their venture. Have Firefox, the web browser, be a thing, and have all the shit actually packaged as a separate extension. Heck, even sell or promote it as “Firefox+” or whatever. Just, don’t break the core feature to add “smart bookmarks” or whatever VPN ads.
are ads and 24/7 surveillance not worse than this though? and all of googles questionable business practices they do not only on chrome but all of their products? i think the choice is clear here. perfect doesnt have to be the enemy of better.
“worse” is debatable, but they certainly are an issue.
However, that doesn’t make it ok in Firefox either. Having a good reputation does not mean you can burn it away by trying your best to look the same as the bad guy you’re supposed to fight. Firefox mobile, for a very plain and simple example, have stuff like “future experiment” and telemetry enabled by default. Sure, I can disable them, but they should either be disabled by default, or have a one-time popup that provides the option on the first launch.
My position is that if a piece of software becomes increasingly intrusive and tedious to use with each “update”, it’s time to look somewhere else. Whether it’s Firefox, Chrome, or even OS like Windows. Having to fight back to get to a decent, usable state means that it’s no longer the right tool for you.
Fortunately, some people are doing the heavy lifting by providing what would be considered “vanilla” firefox with some good forks, as far as being a browser goes.
Linux mint exists, switch and never look back. They just released version 22 and it’s probably the best version of mint I’ve ever used. Switch to mint and use flatpaks instead.
Mozilla’s Firefox browser isn’t known for speed. It falls into last place in most of our tests for Windows and Mac, and that’s okay. Firefox is more about security features than speed, which is ideal if you’re more concerned about blocking malware than loading pages in a flash.
Yep, I’d probably be wasting my time going down the uninstall-reinstall rabbit hole and would probably not find speed increases.
i don’t know why people are so allergic to firefox but it is the answer.
its the only halfway decent answer. install firefox and switch to it.
Classic letting perfect get in the way of good. Firefox is excellent as is. Hate Mozilla? Get one of the quality forks. Which exist because we have firefox.
Vivaldi just has better features than Firefox. I’ll switch to Firefox when Vivaldi is forced to switch to V3 but until then I’m gonna continue to enjoy Vivaldi
Curios, what sets Vivaldi apart so much in features that makes it hard to switch to Firefox?
Tab stacks and mouse gestures are the 2 that I use the most, that don’t exist in Firefox. Tab hibernation is also extremely useful, but I don’t know if that exists in Firefox.
And in general there are so many useful tools, like bookmarking by stack and/or window etc.
Their website lists many of the main features.
Basically because in the later year, the development of firefox took very curious directions, from trying to break some decades old, standard feature (only to revert when gmail users, of all things, complained en masse), to integrating many useless extensions (pocket anyone?) that you can’t remove and that are more and more difficult to disable. To say nothing of the occasional advertisement for irrelevant products. Basically, even if it’s on a smaller scale, using firefox today is starting to look like using windows: you have to fight it on every update to remove something they bork.
And I’m not even talking about the shit that happens at their mother business, Mozilla.
All of this is even more infuriating, because they could very easily not do it and still pursue their venture. Have Firefox, the web browser, be a thing, and have all the shit actually packaged as a separate extension. Heck, even sell or promote it as “Firefox+” or whatever. Just, don’t break the core feature to add “smart bookmarks” or whatever VPN ads.
are ads and 24/7 surveillance not worse than this though? and all of googles questionable business practices they do not only on chrome but all of their products? i think the choice is clear here. perfect doesnt have to be the enemy of better.
“worse” is debatable, but they certainly are an issue.
However, that doesn’t make it ok in Firefox either. Having a good reputation does not mean you can burn it away by trying your best to look the same as the bad guy you’re supposed to fight. Firefox mobile, for a very plain and simple example, have stuff like “future experiment” and telemetry enabled by default. Sure, I can disable them, but they should either be disabled by default, or have a one-time popup that provides the option on the first launch.
My position is that if a piece of software becomes increasingly intrusive and tedious to use with each “update”, it’s time to look somewhere else. Whether it’s Firefox, Chrome, or even OS like Windows. Having to fight back to get to a decent, usable state means that it’s no longer the right tool for you.
Fortunately, some people are doing the heavy lifting by providing what would be considered “vanilla” firefox with some good forks, as far as being a browser goes.
I love Firefox, used to use it all the time. Now it’s slower on Ubuntu than Brave. I mean slow as in irritating to use, click and wait.
thats probably because you are using the snap version of firefox canonical is pushing.
a big reason why i want to ditch ubuntu.
Linux mint exists, switch and never look back. They just released version 22 and it’s probably the best version of mint I’ve ever used. Switch to mint and use flatpaks instead.
Then something must be wrong with the way you configured your OS.
umbrella at lemmy.ml wrote:
To which I offered a possible answer. Does everyone have misconfigured operating systems?
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Yep, I’d probably be wasting my time going down the uninstall-reinstall rabbit hole and would probably not find speed increases.