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When I was packaging Flatpaks, the greatest downside is
No built in package manager
There is a repo with shared dependencies, but it is very few. So needs to package all the dependencies… So, I personally am not interested in packaging for flatpak other than in very rare occasions… Nix and Guix are definitely better solutions (except the isolation aspect, which is not a feature, you need to do it manually), and one can use at many distros; Nix even on MacOS!
nix on MacOS doesn’t even have Chromium. all my kekw
… :'(
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If you run KDE Plasma 5.27 or later, flatpak permission settings are included right from the system settings. A built-in flatseal, in case anyone didn’t know. https://i.imgur.com/PSdt6iy.png
I can keep Firefox bleeding edge without having to worry that the package manager is also going to update the base system, giving me a broken next boot if I run rolling releases.
On Nix[OS], one can use multiple base Nixpkgs versions for specific packages one wants. What I have is e.g. 2 flakes nixpkgs, and nixpkgs-update. The first includes most packages including base system that I do not want to update regularly, while the last is for packages that I want to update more regularly like Web browser (security reasons, etc).
e.g.
- https://codeberg.org/yuuyin/yuunix/src/branch/main/flake.nix#L52-L77
- packages with pkgs (nixpkgs flake) https://codeberg.org/yuuyin/yuunix/src/branch/main/profile/packages.nix#L12-L26
- firefox with pkgs-update (nixpkgs-update flake) https://codeberg.org/yuuyin/yuunix/src/branch/main/profile/app/firefox.nix#L14-L16
I’ve been installing all my software on Ubuntu using the flatpaks because they are mostly up to date. They definitely have there downsides. I keep trying to save renders in blender and exports from draktable in my /tmp/ folder but it doesn’t work right because of the isolation. Also running those programs from the command line or trying to run scrips included with darktable is a real pain in the butt.
Is there any particular reason you use flatpaks rather than snaps? (Not that I’m suggesting using snaps, I myself prefer flatpak, just curious)
I said ubuntu but I’m actually mostly running pop-os and the pop shop installed them as flatpak. I’ve been switching between the two alot lately.
Ah alright, that makes more sense. I ran Pop-OS for a while, and a few other distros since then, but keep coming back to Fedora
One huge thing I don’t understand about Flatpak is how, like the article says, everything is shoved into GitHub. Why? What is the rationale behind making each application its own repository just to store a couple modules and a YAML file?
I do like Flatpak though. It works for what I use it for, and it does a good job at keeping the applications I install through it separate from my system, so I can be sure that my package manager isn’t going to brick everything with an update (not like that has ever happened though).
flatpack convert a well-design operating system linux to a sub-optimized system like our favorite microsoft window 😂
