It is getting absurd at this poin. Just get a laptop and call it a day
As much hilarious as smartphones, increasing screen size bit by bit over 6", but never reaching 7" cause that would make them tablets, I guess?
I find it absolutely hilarious that every single company has a “Steam Deck killer” yet not a single one of them have any idea what made the Steam Deck popular, all they understand is PC handheld with controller (Lenovo is starting to catch on tho).
What are they missing thst the steam deck has? Price?
The steam deck the absolute most ergonomic handheld I’ve ever tried. It’s so fucking comfortable to game on. I love how they put the joystick the same level as the buttons where my thumb moves very naturally between the two. It has amazing touchpads. Great battery and performance. It’s just an amazing device.
Price, software, hardware quality, touchpads, gyro, and a decent sized community
I mean in a lot of ways they literally can’t compete on these things. Price/quality are difficult cause valve can sell their product at a loss (cause theyll make it back on steam sales), software is weird cause who is investing a whole OS to just sell hardware (valve can cause it’s directly tied to their marketplace).
Id give you TouchPad, but I don’t know what the patents are on those, cause I’ve only seen that design on valve products.
I don’t believe Valve is selling them at a loss, but they definitely have less pressure to profit because they are not a publicly traded company.
In short, Steam Deck was made so that the people at Valve would want to use the Deck. Meanwhile most of the competition is operating on “bigger numbers mean better product”.
Not big enough. I want to carry a 55’’ “mobile” gaming device with me. Make it bigger!
Nah the steam decks are laptops but cheaper
Just get a little usbc > usbc/hdmi/usb and you can plug in a keyboard and mosue and then you have a gaming linux laptop for like $350
Show me another capable gaming laptop you can get for $350
You’re missing the actual point, at what point does it become cumbersome to hold a big ass screen in your hand that is also the controller?
The Steam Desk isn’t cumbersome tho, at least not more cumbersome than any laptop would be. I really struggle to see how any of the concerns in this thread are legit.
If there were competative gaming laptops that had the samr power as a Deck then people would be buying those instead of Steam Decks, that’s why they’re so popular.
TBH this thread sounds like a marketing campaign that idiot c-suies would assign to a troll farm instead of actually competing with their competitors.
You started your point by saying get this extra thing, to use extra things. It’s cumbersome.
It’s not a laptop, and the hardware sadly has been unreliable in my experience. It’s just a hobby piece of hardware, just less cool than the dedicated stuff like the Vita.
It’s cool that it has that flexibility, but it sadly isn’t a computer someone can regularly dedicate to unless they have all the extra time to sett it up on the go.
My Steam Deck has largely replaced my laptop, so there is some overlap, but I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment. If you are carrying a keyboard & external screen to work on spreadsheets with you Steam Deck, you would be happier with a laptop.
I have a 60% Bluetooth keyboard and a relatively compact mouse that I can carry with me, but by that point a compact laptop would be more portable with a larger screen.
Using the on screen keyboard and built-in screen to edit spreadsheets would constitute a crime against humanity. Don’t do it, there’s so much more to live for.
The reason it’s replaced my laptop is that I mostly use my laptop for gaming, and the Steam Deck excels at that. Most places I would use a laptop for something else, I have ready access to surplus keyboards and mice. At my parents there is an old TV with HDMI, and I stashed a basic USB mouse and keyboard there over a decade ago. My Steam Deck and a small hub is all I need.
Because of the need of external devices, I kind of consider the Steam Deck a combination of a handheld and a really portable desktop tower.
Honestly it’d help if they switched to a touch friendly desktop interface like gnome. Yep! Its definitely a nice way to have your game on the go.
Sadly I notice that’s the 2 types of use cases. Commuter vs traveler. I take public transport often and I’d care too much about the steam deck being taken. Back when it was just me traveling to a place I’d be at for a while, like my fiancee’s it was nice.
Size means I need to be near an outlet usually, since ideally the goal is play bit more demanding games. Again, I feel it’s still too early for it to be the multitool it can be.
I really wanted to like the steam deck. I’ve had one for nearly a year now and I’ve yet to find a use for it. It’s been unplugged and probably dead on my tv stand for at least six months now.
My issue is power consumption. Where I live, I rely on solar panels and batteries, and the steam deck is less power hungry than a laptop with graphics card.
even with the tiny switch screen we played smash ult on it in kickstand mode with controllers in the break room. turns out if everyone uses dual joycon you get mad input lag before reaching max players. surprisingly playable if everyone can see.
with a bigger lug like this that would be a nicer experience with less squishing together
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A pound heavier than a steam deck doesn’t sound like a lot, but it is in practice.
Also… Windows? Well it’s not good for handheld gaming right out of the gate.
I’m stoked about the removable controllers, though. I’m gimpy AF so even the steam deck is too heavy. I ended up with a Legion Go and love that I can use it with wireless controllers and the kickstand.
Even SD is too big for me after all. Would be nice to have a handheld with the exact power as SteamDeck, but compact
Absurdly massive and yet no space for some touchpads? 🤡
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The device in the OP is not the steam deck
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Yeah, how is it that none of these so-called “rivals” have even a single touchpad? I personally wouldn’t even consider a device that forces me to use a thumbstick as a mouse.
Gotta be honest, i hardly ever use them on the Deck.
If I don’t have it docked I use the right one for anything first-person. I hate aiming with a thumbstick, so it gets used as a mouse. The left one usually gets used as a hotbar.
The Legion Go has a touchpad. I think even the newer one that’s been announced has an (albeit much smaller) touchpad.
I’d even settle for a Lenovo-style nipple for mouse control.
nah babe just COVER your screen in fingerprints! everyone loves touch screens right??
“I appreciate covering my screen in fingerprints, obviously. But what really makes me happy is trying dozens of times to get my fat thumb to register on an interface designed for a mouse.”
- a quote by someone making hardware decisions at SteamDeck rival manufacturers, apparently.
I’ve never used the touchpads on mine outside of desktop mode. The vast majority of games have controller support.
It depends what you play. Strategy games benefit from the touchpads as mice.
Also I sometimes use the touchpads for touch menus.
Yes it does, but as I said, the games that necessitate trackpads are a super minority. That’s why they’re not included in most devices. They take up a lot of space. The Steam Deck is significantly wider than most of it’s competitors.
Lmfao. I didn’t even notice that. Damn. They didn’t even put the joystick next to the buttons on the right side like the steam deck for better ergonomic, they STILL put it under the buttons.
i agree. the reason steam deck and other handhelds work well is because of the smaller screen/resolution.
makes it light and games run ok due to the smaller resolution. a chonker like this completely defeats the purpose of a handheld imo.
Idk if I’d call the deck light.
compared to a laptop, I would. even a small one.
I’m not holding a laptop in front of my face while lounging on a sofa
mazel tov. enjoy.
edit: lol. i missed the “not” cause I read too fast. enjoy what you’re playing regardless.
Try the onexplayer and you’ll call it extremely light then. Lol
Just get a beer belly and rest your deck on it 👍
Every other PC handheld runs at 1080+. And while I agree 800p is the ideal resolution there’s clearly a market for higher resolution. Especially for those of us running lighter games.
oh I’m good where I am with the deck. in future I’m sure it will get smaller, not bigger.
that, and competitors can’t seem to come up with a decent trackpad the way steam deck has. so competitors will need more than a higher resolution and a huge fat monitor.
just my opinion, anyway.
Honestly the deck is already pushing how big a handheld can be and still be portable/handheld. I don’t think I would want anything larger
Agreed, sometimes I even wish there is a “Deck Lite” model.
Yeah if they could find a way to shave even 30-50 grams that would make a big difference
Yah, it appears that 650g is the maximum weight im willing to hold for more than 30 minutes. Even then I’d rather use my ipad as a steam link.
Hot take, but I see it having a market for people who just want to play on a tablet dedicated to gaming without futzing with peripherals. During break I stole my daughter’s tablet to play Gameboy games and it was possibly better than my deck (lighter weight, bigger screen, and shaders that give it a pixel grid w/ a GBC border frame).
This big thing is still not for me, though, as I’d prefer the versatility of going portrait mode because I would likely use it as a 3DS emulator depending on how good the touch is. DS screens fit quite comfortably on tablets in portrait mode. (Assuming I even have the disposable income, which I do not).
Someone was always going to do an XL version for people who want something thats more “portable gaming station” than “handheld”. I dont know why people seem to be bitching about having options.
This is far too big, but still preferable over laptops if you just wanna game
This is also a killer tablet, actually
Linux tablets when?
Some people have been running linux on surface tablets I think?
Install bazzite! I have a Legion Go and I love it with Bazzite.
Does everything work on it running BazziteOS? Including hardware like TDP and wattage limit and all that? I’ve been thinking of the legion go. It looks nice
I’ll confirm what they said, everything works fine. I actually get better performance in some games versus windows.
Thank you <3
I also own a legion go and yes. Yes it does.
Nice, thank you so much for confirming. I’ll be getting one hopefully soon
Be warned that it’s big. The screen is beautiful and I really like that aspect of it, but I’m more comfortable with the ROG Ally x because of the size. That being said, I have small hands and I know others didn’t have this problem with it.
I don’t mind its size that much, I have a onexplayer 8.8" screen. It’s massive and heavy, too. I hate one thing about it, though. The placement of the right joystick. It’s very awkward and very hard to play any game that requires the joystick. I’m having to move my whole hand up and down constantly. Other than that, it’s beautiful. I love the 2560x1600 resolution. It’s stunning.
Yes, but how can you train your beautiful gamer biceps then? You can have all that beautiful extra train and stay in shape while playing your favorite games. A double win!
